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is there any accessible way to talk with you & your own personally and critise some of your staff members actions? or they are all so sacrated? and their mistakes or misjudgements which sometimes doesnt makes sense should be imposed to all?

And any criticism by unfair punishment and bullying by the law that only defends them. Under any circumstances and in any situation (even if they have clearly made a wrong decision.) and by bullying and bullying just because they have executive responsibility on the server. are to be accepted?

For example, the following case: the leader of raid forgot to inform all the members about the appointment. Should a player be punished for helping others just because someone else can't bear to see him succeed out of envy and greed?

And the leader of the raid should be suppressed and suffocated just because he defends the truth and justice?

Please, personally, as the highest authority and owner of the server, check this particular case.

I know that this is not part of the description of your duties and responsibilities and for such cases responsibilities are classified. But I request you to check this particular case yourself and express your opinion.

Even if item removed from winner and raid leader get punished by his unwanted mistake under pressure of leading and countlless whispers ... seems more fairer rather than to redistribute the item to for someone who tries to take personal advantage of the rules of the server and use the neglect of the group leader for the benefit of his own greed.

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https://forum.moonwell.su/topic/689-stunstun

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8 minutes ago, Don mIke said:

is there any accessible way to talk with you & your own personally and critise some of your staff members actions? or they are all so sacrated? and their mistakes or misjudgements which sometimes doesnt makes sense should be imposed to all?

And any criticism by unfair punishment and bullying by the law that only defends them. Under any circumstances and in any situation (even if they have clearly made a wrong decision.) and by bullying and bullying just because they have executive responsibility on the server. are to be accepted?

For example, the following case: the leader of raid forgot to inform all the members about the appointment. Should a player be punished for helping others just because someone else can't bear to see him succeed out of envy and greed?

And the leader of the raid should be suppressed and suffocated just because he defends the truth and justice?

Please, personally, as the highest authority and owner of the server, check this particular case.

I know that this is not part of the description of your duties and responsibilities and for such cases responsibilities are classified. But I request you to check this particular case yourself and express your opinion.

Even if item removed from winner and raid leader get punished by his unwanted mistake under pressure of leading and countlless whispers ... seems more fairer rather than to redistribute the item to for someone who tries to take personal advantage of the rules of the server and use the neglect of the group leader for the benefit of his own greed.

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https://forum.moonwell.su/topic/689-stunstun

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I've joined this server about 6 7 months aggo i must say that i kinda agree with Donmike on this topic i get it sometimes things are not easy but if we have some rulles we have to respect/apply them (doesnt matter nationality) rank or how many years u have played i've been sometimes ,,ninjaed" in raids and didn t say nothing about it and about the staff members i really respect you but in this kind of sittuations u have to react as fast as possible to do THE RIGHT THING ...with regards Teror

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It seems that the matter has taken another turn. I did not see any interference from the game master'sΒ in any other topic, which makes me wonder about the reason for this bias, or that the issue is so complicated that three GM's intervene to making a wrong judgment unfairly in the end.Another thing that makes me wonder is if the winner was Russian, would this be their reaction? Another question is if this change was made by a Russian player or a Russian leader, or did this problem happen on another boss.or the item was not legendary?There is no doubt that they would have a different opinion.

Another question is, do these GM's have knowledge of how things go during the raid, or rather how players are gathered for the raid and how difficult it is? Are they aware of who the active players are on the server and also who leads the raids?we are talking here about most active player and most active leader in this server .These random and racist rulings can greatly harm the server, especially since all English players feel that they areΒ oppressed

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rule 3.11Β Fraud during loot distribution in raids.There was no fraud if you go back to the raid data from the beginning you will see everything clearly but it is clear that there is FRaud and Exploiting the law for personal interests from this selfish, envious player who did not accept his loss easily

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Hello @Gensen, it does not concern me personally, but it seems that the issue has developed and become a racist issue and negligence in decisions by Staffs

First: The GM's decision: It seems clear that the GM made the decision on a personal and racist basis. I will not say that this person who raised the issue, who is certainly Russian, has a personal connection with the official who took charge of this issue, and because of this relationship, the GM made an ill-considered and racist decision towards the players for his greedy friend. But we will not rule out this possibility, which is likely to be the basis of the decision. There is evidence, which is the clear inconsistency between Law 3.11, which issued the ruling, and the Gm's argument in making the decision to transfer the equipment and Mike attended.

Where the law says: Fraud during the distribution of spoils during raids.

And his argument that says: The leader did not announce the decision he made regarding the changes.

Β The law explains: No fraud in distributing spoils. When you go back to the raid conversations, you will find that the loot was a group loot, and this clarifies that there was no direct or indirect fraud in the distribution (noting that the leader had no knowledge of what the last raid leader would throw )
And the Gm's ill-considered argument based on greedy and personal interests that clarifies that the leader did not announce the decision he made (noting that the decision did not have any bad or fraudulent backgrounds, but rather to improve and ensure the balance of the raid so that everything would go smoothly)
Here, the incompatibility of the law on which the ruling was based and the argument on which the decision was based towards the case is clear
This clarifies the recklessness and personal racist basis on which the GM based his decision
I have some questions that clarify what I say
Why didn't anyone speak up when the leader made the decision to have Momo change his character (noting that the warrior was in the group from the beginning) and why didn't anyone speak up when Momo changed his character again before the start of the last boss
(The answer is simple because this is common in any group that conducts a raid and it is not worth talking about, and this clarifies The Gm's argument is not an argument at all)

Would the case have been opened with this breadth and depth if the tool was ordinary and not legendary (given that no one knows what will be drop in the end, and the legendary tools drop is very small.. This shows that the GM has a personal relationship with the player and the decision was based on this relationship)

Finally: To clarify, this decision is ill-considered, irresponsible and racist towards non-Russian players, and personal and emotional, as the GM must take into account all standards and be neutral in decisions, basing his decisions on the basis of the laws without ill-considered personal effort

The upper hand in the server must reconsider this case because it is an issue that has affected all players in various ways and this may harm the reputation and popularity of the server, and this may be the last case for the server, as the server will die for this reason.

The ruling issued towards this case (towards Momo and Mike) must be reconsidered

Thank you

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Π§Ρ‚ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹ ΠΈΡΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΌΠ΅ΠΆΠ΄ΡƒΠ½Π°Ρ€ΠΎΠ΄Π½Ρ‹ΠΉ скандал Π½Π° сСрвакС, я Π΄ΡƒΠΌΠ°ΡŽ стоит ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€Π΅ΡΠΌΠΎΡ‚Ρ€Π΅Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π΅ΡˆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π² ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠ·Ρƒ Π΄Π°Π½Π½Ρ‹Ρ… Π³Ρ€Π°ΠΆΠ΄Π°Π½, ΠΈΠ½Π°Ρ‡Π΅ ΠΏΠ²Π΅ Π½Π°ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²Π»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ EN сСгмСнта Π·Π°Ρ‚ΡƒΡ…Π½Π΅Ρ‚, Π° Ρ‚ΠΎ ΡΠΌΠΎΡ‚Ρ€ΡŽ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Π²Π΅Π΄ΡƒΡ‰ΠΈΡ… Π Π›ΠΎΠ² Ρ‚ΡƒΡ‚ ΠΎΡ‚ΠΌΠ΅Ρ‚ΠΈΠ»ΠΎΡΡŒ))Β 
(To avoid an international misunderstanding i think it is worth reviewing the decision in favor of these guys)

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Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ люди заходят Ρ‚Π²ΠΈΠ½ΠΊΠ°ΠΌΠΈ Π½Π° Ρ€Π°Π·Π½Ρ‹Ρ… боссов Π² Ρ‚Π΅Ρ‡Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°. НикакоС ΠΎΡ‚Π΄Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΠ΅ ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅Ρ‰Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ для этого Π½Π΅ трСбуСтся ΠΎΡ‚ Π Π›, это стратСгия боя. НСт Π½ΠΈΠ³Π΄Π΅ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°, ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊ Π΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ΅Π½ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρ‚Π΅ΠΌ классом, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹ΠΌ Π±Ρ‹Π» Π² Π½Π°Ρ‡Π°Π»Π΅ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°. НСвозмоТно ΡΠ΄Π΅Π»Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅Ρ‰Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ для Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π° Π² Π½Π°Ρ‡Π°Π»Π΅ инста, нСизвСстно ΠΊΠ°ΠΊΠΈΠ΅ Ρ‚Π²ΠΈΠ½ΠΊΠΈ понадобятся Π² процСссС. Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΌΠΈΠ½ΠΈΠΌΡƒΠΌ Π½Π΅ Π±Π°Π½ для Π Π›. Π‘Π°ΠΌΠΎ появлСниС Ρ‚Π²ΠΈΠ½ΠΊΠ° Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅ Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π½ΠΎ всСм. Если ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π΅ устраиваСт - ΠΏΡƒΡΡ‚ΡŒ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ сигнал Π² Ρ‡Π°Ρ‚Π΅. Π’ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΌ случаС ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ Ρ€Π°ΡΡΠΌΠ°Ρ‚Ρ€ΠΈΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ "нСлСгальноС Π΄ΠΎΠ±Π°Π²Π»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π°Π»ΡŒΡ‚-пСрсонаТа". Но Ссли Π½ΠΈ Π΄ΠΎ боя Π½ΠΈ воврСмя Π½ΠΈΠΊΠ°ΠΊΠΎΠΉ ΠΆΠ°Π»ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹ Π½Π΅ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ, Π° появилась ΠΎΠ½Π° Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ послС Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π»Π° - это абьюз ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ΅ Π½Π°Ρ†Π΅Π»Π΅Π½ΠΎ Π½Π° Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠ΅. ЕдинствСнноС, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π΅ΠΎΠ±Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠΌΠΎ Π΄Π΅ΠΉΡΡ‚Π²ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ Π΄Π΅Π»Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄ΠΎΠΌΡƒ - это ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅ΡΡ‚ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄, Ссли Ρ‚Ρ‹ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π»ΠΈΡˆΡŒ Π½Π° Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠΉ спСк (мэйн ΠΏΠΎ ΡƒΠΌΠΎΠ»Ρ‡Π°Π½ΠΈΡŽ Ρ‚Π΅ΠΊΡƒΡ‰ΠΈΠΉ). Π’Π°Ρ€ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΠ» Π½Π° свой спСк.

Π˜Π½Π°Ρ‡Π΅ хочСтся ΠΊΠ°ΠΊΡƒΡŽ-Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΌΠΎΡ‚ΠΈΠ²ΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ²ΠΊΡƒ ΠΎ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°Ρ… вСдСния Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°, ΠΏΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹ΠΌ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Π½ΡΡŽΡ‚ΡΡ наказания. Π² 99% Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ΠΎΠ² происходит смСна пСрсов Π½Π° Ρ€Π°Ρ…Π½Ρ‹Ρ… боссов. Π±Π°Π½ΡŒΡ‚Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²ΠΈΠ½Ρƒ сСрвСра Ρ‚ΠΎΠ³Π΄Π°.

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ΠŸΠ΅Ρ€Π΅Π΄ Ρ‚Π΅ΠΌ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π±ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ босса ΠΎΠ½ (Ρ€ΠΎΠ³) Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Π», ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ ΠΈ ΠΊΠ΅ΠΌ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Π°Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ. Π’ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°Ρ… сказано Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄Ρ‹ΠΉ случай ΠΈΠ½Π΄ΠΈΠ²ΠΈΠ΄ΡƒΠ°Π»Π΅Π½ ΠΈ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Ρ€Π°ΡΡΠΌΠ°Ρ‚Ρ€ΠΈΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€ΡΠΎΠ½Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ, ΠΎΡ‡Π΅Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π½ΠΎ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ умысла ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π°@Π±Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρƒ рСбят Π½Π΅ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ.Β Π‘Π°Π½ здСсь Ρ‚ΠΎΡ‡Π½ΠΎ лишний, ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ½Π°Π΄Π»Π΅ΠΆΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ»Π»ΠΈΠ΄Π°Π½ΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΆΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ большим вопросом.
Π Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ΠΎΠ² ΠΈΡ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΌΠ°Π»ΠΎ, Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Π΅Ρ‰Ρ‘ мСньшС.

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@Dromok100%right

This is an abuse of the rule, which is aimed at something else. The only thing that everyone really needs to do is to notify the raid if you roll on another spec (the main is the current one by default). The war rolled on his spect.

During the raid, players change their alt's frequently and constantly to boost the raid without any announcement from the leader, and I did not see any objection from any one before .The matter here is not related to Notification or not, the matter here is related to the weapon and the greed for this legendaryΒ 

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I would like to @StunstunΒ show up here and tell us how much he is happy with his glaive now .when he pull a ban for his friend who cary him in all his raids as a rogue . And we all know that is rare are the leader's who cary rogues.

It's so expensive this glaive.it cost your head @Don mIke

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На ΠΊΠ°ΠΊΠΎΠΌ Π΅Ρ‰Ρ‘ сСрвСрС Π°Π΄ΠΌΠΈΠ½Ρƒ ΠΈ Π³ΠΌΠ°ΠΌ Π½Π° ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ Π½Π΅Ρ‚Ρƒ Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ Π·Π°Π½ΡΡ‚ΡŒΡΡ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π±Ρ‹ Π·Π°Π½ΠΈΠΌΠ°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ ΠΌΠΎΠ½ΠΈΡ‚ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΠ½Π³ΠΎΠΌ ΠΈ Π²Π°Π»ΠΈΠ΄Π°Ρ†Ρ‹Π΅ΠΉ Ρ€ΠΎΠ·Π΄Π°Ρ‡ΠΈ Π»ΡƒΡ‚Π° Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°Ρ…?

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Вопрос для Π‘ΠΏΠΈΠ΄ΠΈ:

1. Если Π±Ρ‹ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅Ρ‰Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π›ΠΎΠΊ Π·Π°ΠΉΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Π½Π° Π’Π°Ρ€Π° - ΠΎΠ½ Π±Ρ‹ Π»ΠΈΠ²Π½ΡƒΠ» с Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°? 100% Π½Π΅Ρ‚

2. Он ΠΆΠ΅ Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Π» Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π²Π°Ρ€ Π·Π°ΡˆΡ‘Π», ΠΏΠΎΡ‡Π΅ΠΌΡƒ слово Π½Π΅ сказал Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡ‚ΠΈΠ²?Β 

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Rotten and stupid English-speaking players, you never write in raids who you roll on, always go to different twinks during one raid (and you need to write about this in advance). 90% of you do not know how to play. This situation will be a lesson to you, eat shit. Mike, you are a dog, you deservedly got punished. Cry more, it will not help you.

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Π’ 05.01.2025 Π² 11:03, dannie сказал:

ΠŸΠ΅Ρ€Π΅Π΄ Ρ‚Π΅ΠΌ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π±ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ босса ΠΎΠ½ (Ρ€ΠΎΠ³) Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Π», ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ ΠΈ ΠΊΠ΅ΠΌ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Π°Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ. Π’ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°Ρ… сказано Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄Ρ‹ΠΉ случай ΠΈΠ½Π΄ΠΈΠ²ΠΈΠ΄ΡƒΠ°Π»Π΅Π½ ΠΈ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Ρ€Π°ΡΡΠΌΠ°Ρ‚Ρ€ΠΈΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€ΡΠΎΠ½Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ, ΠΎΡ‡Π΅Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π½ΠΎ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ умысла ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π°@Π±Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρƒ рСбят Π½Π΅ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ.Β Π‘Π°Π½ здСсь Ρ‚ΠΎΡ‡Π½ΠΎ лишний, ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ½Π°Π΄Π»Π΅ΠΆΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ»Π»ΠΈΠ΄Π°Π½ΠΊΠΈ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΆΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ большим вопросом.
Π Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ΠΎΠ² ΠΈΡ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΌΠ°Π»ΠΎ, Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Π΅Ρ‰Ρ‘ мСньшС.

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ΠŸΠΎΡ‡Π΅ΠΌΡƒ Π±Π°Π½ лишний? Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π΄Π°Π»ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°ΠΌ сСрвСра, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ Π΄Π°Π²Π½ΠΎ написаны, Π° Π½Π΅ Π²Ρ‹Π΄ΡƒΠΌΠ°Π½Π½Ρ‹Π΅ ΡΠΏΠ΅Ρ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ для этого случая. Π­Ρ‚ΠΈ Π±ΡƒΡ€Π³ΠΈ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ сСбС ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΡΡŽΡ‚, Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΈΠΌ ΡƒΡ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ.Π˜Ρ… Ρ‚ΡƒΡ‚ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π° ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ залюбил ГСнсСн, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π½Π° Π³ΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²Ρƒ сСли. Ролят постоянно Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°Ρ… Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ хотят, Π½Π° ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ролят Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠΈΡˆΡƒΡ‚, Π° ΠΏΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ Ρ‚ΠΈΠΊΠ΅Ρ‚Ρ‹ Π½Π°Π½Ρ‹Π²Π°ΡŽΡ‚.  Они хотят ΠΈ Ρ€Ρ‹Π±ΠΊΡƒ ΡΡŠΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈ Π½Π° Ρ…*ΠΉ ΡΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ. И Ρ€Ρ‹Π±ΠΊΡƒ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π½Π΅ ΠΊΡƒΡˆΠ°ΡŽΡ‚.Β 

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Π‘Π°Π½ ΠΈ пСрСраспрСдСлСниС Π»ΡƒΡ‚Π° ΠΎΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄Π΅Π»Ρ‘Π½Π½ΠΎ лишнСС: Π½ΠΈ ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ ΠΈΠ· ΠΏΡƒΠ½ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎΠ² ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ» Π½Π°Ρ€ΡƒΡˆΠ΅Π½ Π½Π΅ Π±Ρ‹Π». Π’ΠΎΡ‚, ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ Таловался - сам Π½Π΅ Π·Π½Π°Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ», ΠΈ это Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π½ΠΎ Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ числС ΠΏΠΎ самой ΠΆΠ°Π»ΠΎΠ±Π΅ Π² Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ΅ вопроса. А Ρ‚ΠΎΡ‚, ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ Π½Π°ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π» - Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π΅ ΡƒΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π» ΠΏΡƒΠ½ΠΊΡ‚ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ», ΠΏΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠΌΡƒ Π Π› Π±Ρ‹Π» Π½Π°ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π½. ΠŸΠΎΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΡƒ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΏΡƒΠ½ΠΊΡ‚Π° Π½Π΅Ρ‚.

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4 часа Π½Π°Π·Π°Π΄, Distraction сказал:

ΠŸΠΎΡ‡Π΅ΠΌΡƒ Π±Π°Π½ лишний? Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π΄Π°Π»ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°ΠΌ сСрвСра, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ Π΄Π°Π²Π½ΠΎ написаны, Π° Π½Π΅ Π²Ρ‹Π΄ΡƒΠΌΠ°Π½Π½Ρ‹Π΅ ΡΠΏΠ΅Ρ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ для этого случая. Π­Ρ‚ΠΈ Π±ΡƒΡ€Π³ΠΈ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ сСбС ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΡΡŽΡ‚, Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΈΠΌ ΡƒΡ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ.Π˜Ρ… Ρ‚ΡƒΡ‚ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π° ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ залюбил ГСнсСн, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π½Π° Π³ΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²Ρƒ сСли. Ролят постоянно Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°Ρ… Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ хотят, Π½Π° ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ролят Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠΈΡˆΡƒΡ‚, Π° ΠΏΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ Ρ‚ΠΈΠΊΠ΅Ρ‚Ρ‹ Π½Π°Π½Ρ‹Π²Π°ΡŽΡ‚.  Они хотят ΠΈ Ρ€Ρ‹Π±ΠΊΡƒ ΡΡŠΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈ Π½Π° Ρ…*ΠΉ ΡΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ. И Ρ€Ρ‹Π±ΠΊΡƒ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π½Π΅ ΠΊΡƒΡˆΠ°ΡŽΡ‚.Β 

Ну Π²Ρ‹ ΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚Π΅ Π·Π°Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΏΠΎ Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄Ρƒ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π° Π½Π° Ρ€Π°Π·Π½Ρ‹Ρ… пСрсов Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π±Ρ‹ ΡƒΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡΡ‚ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡ…ΠΎΠΆΠ΄Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΠΉΠΌΠ°Π΅Ρ‚Π΅ ΠΊΠ΄ ΠΈ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚Π΅ ΠΏΠ»Π°ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚ΡŒ , я Ρ‚ΠΎΠΆΠ΅ Π·Π°Ρ…ΠΎΠΆΡƒ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΌΠ΅Ρ€Π΅ надобности ΠΎΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄Π΅Π»Π΅Π½Π½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ класса Π½Π° боссах ΠΈ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΌΠ½Π΅ Π±Π΅Π· Π»ΡƒΡ‚Π° ΡΠΈΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ΡŒ Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ‰Π΅ ? Π’Π°ΠΊ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ΅ Π΄Π΅Π»Π°ΡŽΡ‚ , Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π±Ρ‹ Π½Π΅ ΠΌΡƒΡ‡Π°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ я ΡƒΠ²Π΅Ρ€Π΅Π½ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ этот Π²Π°Ρ€ Π² 2 Ρ€Π°Π·Π° большС ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠ·Ρ‹ принСс Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ Ρ€ΠΎΠ³.

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4 часа Π½Π°Π·Π°Π΄, Distraction сказал:

ΠŸΠΎΡ‡Π΅ΠΌΡƒ Π±Π°Π½ лишний? Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π΄Π°Π»ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°ΠΌ сСрвСра, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ Π΄Π°Π²Π½ΠΎ написаны, Π° Π½Π΅ Π²Ρ‹Π΄ΡƒΠΌΠ°Π½Π½Ρ‹Π΅ ΡΠΏΠ΅Ρ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ для этого случая. Π­Ρ‚ΠΈ Π±ΡƒΡ€Π³ΠΈ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ сСбС ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΡΡŽΡ‚, Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΈΠΌ ΡƒΡ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ.Π˜Ρ… Ρ‚ΡƒΡ‚ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π° ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ залюбил ГСнсСн, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π½Π° Π³ΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²Ρƒ сСли. Ролят постоянно Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°Ρ… Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ хотят, Π½Π° ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ролят Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠΈΡˆΡƒΡ‚, Π° ΠΏΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ Ρ‚ΠΈΠΊΠ΅Ρ‚Ρ‹ Π½Π°Π½Ρ‹Π²Π°ΡŽΡ‚.  Они хотят ΠΈ Ρ€Ρ‹Π±ΠΊΡƒ ΡΡŠΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈ Π½Π° Ρ…*ΠΉ ΡΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ. И Ρ€Ρ‹Π±ΠΊΡƒ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π½Π΅ ΠΊΡƒΡˆΠ°ΡŽΡ‚.Β 

Π’ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°Ρ… Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ‰Π΅ написано ΠΏΡ€ΠΎ ΠΌΠΎΡˆΠ΅Π½Π½ΠΈΡ‡Π΅ΡΡ‚Π²ΠΎ с Π»ΡƒΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ, Ρƒ Π½ΠΈΡ… ΠΎΠ½ Π±Ρ‹Π» чСстный. Под сводкой ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ» Π΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π°Π·ΡŠΡΡΠ½Π΅Π½ΠΈΡ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΠ½ΠΊΡ€Π΅Ρ‚Π½ΠΎ этому ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Ρƒ, Π³Π΄Π΅ сказано, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½ΡƒΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΡƒΠ²Π΅Π΄ΠΎΠΌΠ»ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ² Π½Π° ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡˆΡŒ, ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ я понял Ρ€ΠΎΠ³ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΠ»ΡΡ ΠΊ Π½ΠΈΠΌ послС этого, Π° ΠΏΠΎΠ²Ρ‚ΠΎΡ€Π½ΠΎ Π΅ΠΌΡƒ Π½ΠΈΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ этого Π½Π΅ сказал ΡƒΠΆΠ΅. Π’ΠΎΡ‚ Ссли Π±Ρ‹ ΠΎΠ½ Π»ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ Π΄ΠΎ этого всС подряд Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΠ», Ρ‚ΠΎ Π΄Π°, твоя пословица умСстна, Π½ΠΎ Ссли ΠΎΠ½ ΠΈΠΌ Π½ΠΈΡ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π½Π΅ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΠ», Ρ‚ΠΎ, ΠΈΠΌΡ…ΠΎ, Ρ…Ρ€Π΅Π½ΡŒ Π²Ρ‹ΡˆΠ»Π°. Битуация Π² любом случаС спорная, ΠΏΠΎΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΡƒ Π΅Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅Ρ€Π½ΡƒΡ‚ΡŒ Π² ΠΎΠ±Π΅ стороны.Β 

Надо Π΄ΠΎΠΏΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΠΎ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎΠ± Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈΡ… ситуаций большС Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΎΠ·Π½ΠΈΠΊΠ°Π»ΠΎ.

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Unfortunately, the issue lies in the fact that English-speaking players are not accustomed to informing the raid about raid rules, which caused this entire problem. I understand that there was likely no ill intent, and it's even possible that the warlock deserved this glaive more than the rogue Stunstun. However, rules are rules, and they apply equally to everyone.

Every rule was personally written by me, and their sole purpose is to protect players and ensure their gaming experience on the server is enjoyable.Β Players in a raid should know how many contenders for their loot are already in the raid. If you're playing a rogue and see that the raid consists entirely of rogues, you're unlikely to join that raid because the competition for drops would be too high. When a raid leader decides to exclude mains and bring in their alts, it is unfair to other players, which is why we decided to regulate this issue with rules. Since you didn’t inform anyone that the warlock would relog at the last boss, this action was not allowed. This fully aligns with the rules, which are publicly available to all players.

I have great respect for English-speaking players, as do all of our GMs, and this decision cannot be biasedβ€”it simply makes no sense. Whether it’s a top donor, a top raider, or a regular player who just joined the server today, they are all equal. I kindly ask for your understanding regarding this decision.

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31 ΠΌΠΈΠ½ΡƒΡ‚Ρƒ Π½Π°Π·Π°Π΄, Gensen сказал:

Unfortunately, the issue lies in the fact that English-speaking players are not accustomed to informing the raid about raid rules, which caused this entire problem. I understand that there was likely no ill intent, and it's even possible that the warlock deserved this glaive more than the rogue Stunstun. However, rules are rules, and they apply equally to everyone.

Every rule was personally written by me, and their sole purpose is to protect players and ensure their gaming experience on the server is enjoyable.Β Players in a raid should know how many contenders for their loot are already in the raid. If you're playing a rogue and see that the raid consists entirely of rogues, you're unlikely to join that raid because the competition for drops would be too high. When a raid leader decides to exclude mains and bring in their alts, it is unfair to other players, which is why we decided to regulate this issue with rules. Since you didn’t inform anyone that the warlock would relog at the last boss, this action was not allowed. This fully aligns with the rules, which are publicly available to all players.

I have great respect for English-speaking players, as do all of our GMs, and this decision cannot be biasedβ€”it simply makes no sense. Whether it’s a top donor, a top raider, or a regular player who just joined the server today, they are all equal. I kindly ask for your understanding regarding this decision.

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"На послСднСм боссС пСрСсСл с Π²Π°Ρ€Π»ΠΎΠΊΠ° Π½Π° Π²Π°Ρ€Π°".Β  Π’ любом Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅ ΠΈ Π½Π° любом боссС ΠΌΠΎΠ³Π»ΠΈ Π±Ρ‹ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠΈΠ·ΠΎΠΉΡ‚ΠΈ Π°Π½Π°Π»ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΡ‡Π½Ρ‹Π΅ Π·Π°ΠΌΠ΅Π½Ρ‹. К ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Ρ€Ρƒ, Ссли ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊ исчСз (ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠΏΠ°Π»ΠΎ элСктричСство\Π΄Π΅Π»Π°\ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ±Π»Π΅ΠΌΡ‹ со Π·Π΄ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ²ΡŒΠ΅ΠΌ), Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ€Π°Π·Π²Π΅ Π Π› обязан Π΄ΠΎΠ±ΠΈΡ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρ‚ΠΎΡ‡Π½ΠΎ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΉ ΠΆΠ΅ класс? Или, ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠΆΠΈΠΌ: Π²Π°Ρ€Π»ΠΎΠΊ исчСз, Π½Π° Π·Π°ΠΌΠ΅Π½Ρƒ взяли случайного Π»Π΅Π²ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠ°, ΠΏΡ€ΠΈ этом, способного Π½ΠΎΡΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π³Π»Π΅ΠΉΠ²Ρ‹. Π•ΠΌΡƒ слСдуСт ΠΎΡ‚ΠΊΠ°Π·Ρ‹Π²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π² Π»ΡƒΡ‚Π΅, Ссли Π΄ΠΎ этого Π½Π΅ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ Π½ΠΈΠΊΠ°ΠΊΠΈΡ… Ρ€Π΅Π·Π΅Ρ€Π²ΠΎΠ²?? Какая Ρ€Π°Π·Π½ΠΈΡ†Π°, ΠΊΠΎΠΌΡƒ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ½Π°Π΄Π»Π΅ΠΆΠ°Π» пСрсонаТ, Ρ‚Π΅ΠΌ Π±ΠΎΠ»Π΅Π΅, Ссли Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ Π±Ρ‹Π» ΡƒΠΊΠΎΠΌΠΏΠ»Π΅ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎΠ²Π°Π½ 1 пСрсонаТ Π½Π° Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊΠ°.Β 
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Π‘ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΡˆΠΈΠ½ΡΡ‚Π²ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΡ‡Π΅ΠΌΡƒ-Ρ‚ΠΎ видят Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ Π½Π΅Π³Π°Ρ‚ΠΈΠ². Π”Π°, Π·Π°ΡˆΡ‘Π» Π½Π° Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ пСрсонаТа. Но ΠΏΡ€ΠΈ этом Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π» Π²Ρ‹ΠΈΠ³Ρ€Π°Π», ΠΈ ΠΊΠ΄ повСсил Π½Π° 2ΡƒΡ… пСрсонаТСй. Π’ Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΆΠ΅ врСмя Π²Π°Ρ€Π»ΠΎΠΊ ΠΈ Π²Π°Ρ€ ΠΌΠΎΠ³Π»ΠΈ Π±Ρ‹Ρ‚ΡŒ Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ‰Π΅ Π°Π±ΡΠΎΠ»ΡŽΡ‚Π½ΠΎ Ρ€Π°Π·Π½Ρ‹ΠΌΠΈ людьми - ΠΊ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Ρ€Ρƒ, Ссли ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ уступил мСсто Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠΌΡƒ.

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47 ΠΌΠΈΠ½ΡƒΡ‚ Π½Π°Π·Π°Π΄, Gensen сказал:

К соТалСнию, ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ±Π»Π΅ΠΌΠ° Π·Π°ΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡Π°Π΅Ρ‚ΡΡ Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ англоговорящиС ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Ρ‹ΠΊΠ»ΠΈ ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅Ρ€ΠΎΠ² ΠΎ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°Ρ… Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π°, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΈ Π²Ρ‹Π·Π²Π°Π»ΠΎ всю эту ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ±Π»Π΅ΠΌΡƒ. Π― понимаю, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ, скорСС всСго, Π½Π΅ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ Π·Π»ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ умысла, ΠΈ Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Π²ΠΎΠ·ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‡Π΅Ρ€Π½ΠΎΠΊΠ½ΠΈΠΆΠ½ΠΈΠΊ заслуТил эту Π³Π»Π΅Ρ„Ρƒ большС, Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ ΠΎΠ³Π»ΡƒΡˆΠ°ΡŽΡ‰ΠΈΠΉ ΡƒΠ΄Π°Ρ€ Ρ€Π°Π·Π±ΠΎΠΉΠ½ΠΈΠΊΠ°. Однако ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π° Π΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°, ΠΈ ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π² Ρ€Π°Π²Π½ΠΎΠΉ стСпСни ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠΌΡ‹ ΠΊΠΎ всСм.

КаТдоС ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΠΎ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ написано Π»ΠΈΡ‡Π½ΠΎ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠΉ, ΠΈ ΠΈΡ… СдинствСнная Ρ†Π΅Π»ΡŒ β€” Π·Π°Ρ‰ΠΈΡ‚ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ² ΠΈ ΡΠ΄Π΅Π»Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹ ΠΈΡ… ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΠΉ ΠΎΠΏΡ‹Ρ‚ Π½Π° сСрвСрС Π±Ρ‹Π» приятным. Π˜Π³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΈ Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅ Π΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ½Ρ‹ Π·Π½Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ, сколько ΠΏΡ€Π΅Ρ‚Π΅Π½Π΄Π΅Π½Ρ‚ΠΎΠ² Π½Π° ΠΈΡ… Π΄ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹Ρ‡Ρƒ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ находится Π² Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅. Если Π²Ρ‹ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€Π°Π΅Ρ‚Π΅ Π·Π° Ρ€Π°Π·Π±ΠΎΠΉΠ½ΠΈΠΊΠ° ΠΈ Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚Π΅, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ состоит ΠΈΡΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ ΠΈΠ· Ρ€Π°Π·Π±ΠΎΠΉΠ½ΠΈΠΊΠΎΠ², Π²Ρ‹ вряд Π»ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΡΠΎΠ΅Π΄ΠΈΠ½ΠΈΡ‚Π΅ΡΡŒ ΠΊ этому Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Ρƒ, ΠΏΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ конкурСнция Π·Π° Π΄ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹Ρ‡Ρƒ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ слишком высокой. Когда Π»ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Ρ€ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π° Ρ€Π΅ΡˆΠ°Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΈΡΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ основных пСрсонаТСй ΠΈ Π²Π·ΡΡ‚ΡŒ с собой ΠΈΡ… Π°Π»ΡŒΡ‚ΠΎΠ², это нСсправСдливо ΠΏΠΎ ΠΎΡ‚Π½ΠΎΡˆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡŽ ΠΊ Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΈΠΌ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠ°ΠΌ, поэтому ΠΌΡ‹ Ρ€Π΅ΡˆΠΈΠ»ΠΈ ΡƒΡ€Π΅Π³ΡƒΠ»ΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ этот вопрос с ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΡ‰ΡŒΡŽ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ». ΠŸΠΎΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΡƒ Π²Ρ‹ Π½ΠΈΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΡƒΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‡Π΅Ρ€Π½ΠΎΠΊΠ½ΠΈΠΆΠ½ΠΈΠΊ пСрСлогинится Π½Π° послСднСм боссС, это дСйствиС Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ Π·Π°ΠΏΡ€Π΅Ρ‰Π΅Π½ΠΎ. Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠ»Π½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒΡŽ соотвСтствуСт ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°ΠΌ, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ общСдоступны для всСх ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ².

Π― с большим ΡƒΠ²Π°ΠΆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ΠΌ ΠΎΡ‚Π½ΠΎΡˆΡƒΡΡŒ ΠΊ англоговорящим ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠ°ΠΌ, ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΈ всС наши гроссмСйстСры, ΠΈ это Ρ€Π΅ΡˆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π½Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ Π±Ρ‹Ρ‚ΡŒ прСдвзятым β€” ΠΎΠ½ΠΎ просто Π½Π΅ ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Π΅Ρ‚ смысла. Π‘ΡƒΠ΄ΡŒ Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ²Ρ‹ΠΉ Π΄ΠΎΠ½ΠΎΡ€, Ρ‚ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ²Ρ‹ΠΉ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅Ρ€ ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹Ρ‡Π½Ρ‹ΠΉ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊ, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹ΠΉ Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ сСгодня присоСдинился ΠΊ сСрвСру, всС ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Ρ€Π°Π²Π½Ρ‹. Π― ΡƒΠ±Π΅Π΄ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡˆΡƒ вас с ΠΏΠΎΠ½ΠΈΠΌΠ°Π½ΠΈΠ΅ΠΌ ΠΎΡ‚Π½Π΅ΡΡ‚ΠΈΡΡŒ ΠΊ этому Ρ€Π΅ΡˆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡŽ.

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Π’ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ€ΠΈΡ‰ Майк Π±Ρ‹Π» достаточно Π°ΠΊΡ‚ΠΈΠ²Π½Ρ‹ΠΌ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ этого сСрвСра, ΠΎΡ‡Π΅Π½ΡŒ часто собирал  Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Ρ‹ для англоязычных ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ²(ΠΊ ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹ΠΌ Π³Π»ΡƒΠ±ΠΎΠΊΠΎ Ρ…ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΡˆΠΎ ΠΎΡ‚Π½ΠΎΡΠΈΡ‚Π΅ΡΡŒ), Π±ΠΎΠ»Π΅Π΅ Ρ‚ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Майк Π±Ρ‹Π» ΠΎΡ‚ части  ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ русскоязычных Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ΠΎΠ² Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ числС ΠΈ ΠΌΠΎΠΈΡ… Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ΠΎΠ², всСгда ΠΌΠΎΠ³ Π½Π°ΠΌ Ρ€Π΅ΠΊΠΎΠΌΠ΅Π½Π΄ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ² с ΠΊΠ΅ΠΌ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ спокойно Π±Π΅Π· Π²Π°ΠΉΠΏΠΎΠ² ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠΉΡ‚ΠΈ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Ρ‹.Π― Π½Π΅ знаю всСй ситуации которая слоТилась Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π΅ ΠΈ Π΄ΡƒΠΌΠ°ΡŽ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π»ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Ρ€ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Π° просто напросто Π·Π°Π±Ρ‹Π» донСсти ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Ρ†ΠΈΡŽ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π²Π°Ρ€Π»ΠΎΠΊ ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹ΠΉ Π½Π΅ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π»ΠΈΠ» Π½ΠΈ ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎΠΉ ΡˆΠΌΠΎΡ‚ΠΊΠΈ Π·Π° вСсь инст Π΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ΅Π½ Π½Π° послСднСм босС ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ Π½Π° Π’ΠΎΠΈΠ½Π°.Π‘Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°ΡŽ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ссли Π²Π°Ρ€Π»ΠΎΠΊ Π½ΠΈΡ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π½Π΅ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π»ΠΈΠ»(Π° это я Π΄ΡƒΠΌΠ°ΡŽ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π΅Ρ€ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ) ΠΈ шСл Π½Π° условиях Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ 8 ΠΈΠ· 9 боссов, Π° ΠΏΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ пСрСсядСт Π²ΠΎΠΈΠ½Π°, Ρ€ΠΎΠ²Π½ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎΡ‡Π½ΠΎ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΆΠ΅ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΈ Ρ€ΠΎΠ³Π° достоин ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²Π° Π½Π° Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π» Π»ΡƒΡ‚Π° с 9 боса. Π’Π΅ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€ΡŒ Π½Π° сСрвСрС мСньшС ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΌΠΈΠ½ΠΈΠΌΡƒΠΌ Π΅Ρ‰Π΅ Π½Π° ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄ Π»ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Ρ€Π°, Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΎΠ½ Π½Π΅ ΠΎΠΆΠΈΠ΄Π°Π» Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ такая бСзобидная ситуация ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π΅Π΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΊ Π±Π°Π½Ρƒ Π΅Π³ΠΎ пСрсонаТа(вопрос Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π΅ Π² срокС Π±Π°Π½Π°).Если Ρ†Π΅Π»ΡŒΡŽ Π±Π°Π½Π° Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ ΡƒΡ‰Π΅ΠΌΠ»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π°ΠΊΡ‚ΠΈΠ²Π½Ρ‹Ρ… Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄-ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ² ENG Ρ‚ΠΎ Π²Ρ‹ добились успСха, ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚Π°ΠΌ Π΅Ρ‰Π΅ срСди Π½ΠΈΡ… Π²ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚ Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄Ρ‹ я Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΡΡ‚Π°Π²Π»ΡΡŽ))

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Don Mike β€” БСгодня, Π² 10:44
"Due to the level of corruption and filth that has engulfed the server, especially among the members in authority, in my opinion, continuing and playing on this server has no value and is just a waste of time.

[10:49]

so i prefer to waste my time in somewhere else at with less corrupted atmosphere

[10:50]

Their so-called rules are so one way and just for their own benfits and their own intrests"

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@GensenΒ with all respect .as a raid leader i unwantedly forgotten to announce it in raid char , i should have screen shot my aggretment with warlock on private chat. and i accepted the penalty upon myself .but which shown during the raid time or during the looting proccess or before illidan(last boss fight starts) ... if the rouge wasnt happy or he has any kind of objections why he didnt say anything on raid chat or private chat to rl?Β 

.But i have some inquiries:

1. if u check out wholeΒ  raid warlock joined with his warior as alt on group 3 and it was whole time on group 3 with almost similar name that shown its his own alt.

during the raid time which tooks more than 1hr 17mins none of the members of raid including the rogue didnt announce his protest or any kind of objection.And ofcourse it was so obvious for all of them (also rogue) that the warlock will log char warior last boss.(and thats why they didnt say anything)

2.if u check out the raid he didnt win any items by his warlock at all. so to respond to some of accusations which ive seen some ppl whom never had been in that raid made , are not valid without any kind of proof and evidence.Β 

3. before the last boss fight he left with his warlock and log back with his warior. which u can see clearly on raid history. even that momentΒ  ,rouge or any one else didnt protest which they could have easily say" warior can not roll any items cuz he swap the char".

4. during the fight of illidan (last boss) they still had the chance to announce any kind of their unsatisfaction to RL ... but there wasnt any kind of protest again.(another chance).

5.when the boss fight was over ... and before the looting process ... again no one had any objections again (include the Stunstun the rouge himself).(and also you better know the drop chance of legendry items are so rare .. and none of us include RL can predictΒ  that.) (but this is another chance for them to make their announcement but he didnt.)

6. during the looting process again no protests . and not even after the item distributation. on raid chat ... when he lost the roll vs warior and you can see others congragulating to warior.Β 

And i kept asking myself ,why he or any other members of that raid didnt announce their unsatisfactions when they have chances? more than 5times?

and its so obvious rogue go on rules and search over and over after couple hours which raid has been alrdy over to find out a an excuse that stems from RL negligence and use it on his own benefits.

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@Gensenwhit all respect.as RL i appologze @Β momo cuz he was rightful winner of glaive and it was all my fault as rl i wish i could make it up and i asuusre u it was unwanted mistake which had happend also affected by pressure of leading an lots of whispers during that damn raid.Β  But the fair judgement would be item have been removed and RL get punished.. and redistribuation is too much (my opinion with respect to gm decision).

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1 час Π½Π°Π·Π°Π΄, dannie сказал:

Π’ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Π°Ρ… Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ‰Π΅ написано ΠΏΡ€ΠΎ ΠΌΠΎΡˆΠ΅Π½Π½ΠΈΡ‡Π΅ΡΡ‚Π²ΠΎ с Π»ΡƒΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ, Ρƒ Π½ΠΈΡ… ΠΎΠ½ Π±Ρ‹Π» чСстный. Под сводкой ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ» Π΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π°Π·ΡŠΡΡΠ½Π΅Π½ΠΈΡ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΠ½ΠΊΡ€Π΅Ρ‚Π½ΠΎ этому ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»Ρƒ, Π³Π΄Π΅ сказано, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½ΡƒΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΡƒΠ²Π΅Π΄ΠΎΠΌΠ»ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ³Ρ€ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ² Π½Π° ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡˆΡŒ, ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ я понял Ρ€ΠΎΠ³ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΠ»ΡΡ ΠΊ Π½ΠΈΠΌ послС этого, Π° ΠΏΠΎΠ²Ρ‚ΠΎΡ€Π½ΠΎ Π΅ΠΌΡƒ Π½ΠΈΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ этого Π½Π΅ сказал ΡƒΠΆΠ΅. Π’ΠΎΡ‚ Ссли Π±Ρ‹ ΠΎΠ½ Π»ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠΌ Π΄ΠΎ этого всС подряд Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΠ», Ρ‚ΠΎ Π΄Π°, твоя пословица умСстна, Π½ΠΎ Ссли ΠΎΠ½ ΠΈΠΌ Π½ΠΈΡ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π½Π΅ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΠ», Ρ‚ΠΎ, ΠΈΠΌΡ…ΠΎ, Ρ…Ρ€Π΅Π½ΡŒ Π²Ρ‹ΡˆΠ»Π°. Битуация Π² любом случаС спорная, ΠΏΠΎΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΡƒ Π΅Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅Ρ€Π½ΡƒΡ‚ΡŒ Π² ΠΎΠ±Π΅ стороны.Β 

Надо Π΄ΠΎΠΏΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΠΎ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎΠ± Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈΡ… ситуаций большС Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΎΠ·Π½ΠΈΠΊΠ°Π»ΠΎ.

Π”Π° Π½Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»Π»ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π½Π° ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ, ΠΏΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌ ΠΊΠΎΠ³Π΄Π° вздумаСтся ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ Π½Π° Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ, Ссли Π Π› Π½Π΅ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΡƒΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΈΠ» ΠΎΠ± этом Ρ€Π΅ΠΉΠ΄. Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΆΠ΅ самоС Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ€ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π½Π° 2 спСка идя ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΈΠΌ пСрсом

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