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warior can use https://db.moonwell.su/?item=34397 its bis for all mele specs even paladian

5days and still no response to this ticket ! ! !

@SecDet @Carmack@Murovei@Peanut@Agrest its has been passed almost 3days and you didnt still read /reply the ticket. (i know you are maybe busy in your real life but please do something about it as soon as possible. i appreciated that.)

@DromokLets agree on disagrement !

Whit all respects to all respected fair raid leaders whom active in this server.this case isnt about all raid leaders. Its about one specific person whom knows nothing about the raid leading responsibilities and its tasks and consequences.(and just brough his personal intrests and grudge to game & combined it with his autority as raid leader and abused his abilities in that raid which is totally diffrent case.) The pve side of this server is just alive cuz of its raid leaders whom has the balls to take responsibility and accept a duty wether they are known are its consequences. Cuz majority of time its them whom has been punished harder. in a server whit less than 150 active member which u can buy all stuff with donations and couple money its quite admirable except abusive ones. Pluse i didnt mean to offend you or be disrespectful to you. but you are debatting alot and keep mixing lots unreasonable assumptions and reasons variable which are not related to that specific raid and that specific person. Raid leading is not just looting or spam in /RW (raid warnning) . maybe its for some ppl whom just only played here it is. but honestly its not like that.

and i asked @SecDet @Murovei @Peanut@Agrest to deal with this ticket and reply asap to end this endless loop of debates with you .(the one whom even wasnt in there) sick of these debates which you even wasnt in that raid. P.S. @Dromok"You know nothing John Snow ! ! ! "

well i assure u , that there wasnt any kind of those problems which or problems like them you name them. i admit that low dps /didnt listen to him when use bl or not /use proper totems /intrupt intime properly or etc which are related to game mechanics can be considered as an objective reasons. But there wasnt any kind of those or mistakes at all. None even one. and i was on top 3 dps with shaman elem. He just ricked me cuz he got butt hurted .

thats exactly why i asked the gms to check out the raid , to see if he has objective reasons or not? and also check out my activity during that raid , and if & maybe if there is any kind of explaination after kicking me out by him on raid chat lemme know that , or its just a false excuse. (gms can check out its validition) and if there was none so i got id only by his biased decision, which is not allowded and called intentional and systematic exclusion of a player from an active raid. which is obviouly against the rule 3.13 (cuz the player got id for 3dys and some hours after that rkick by raid leader) and as RL he should accept the later consequences of such actions , Otherwise every raid leader allowded to him/herself to rkick players from raid without any objective reasons(refer to server rules) and make slots for his freinds or other one alts /chars by claming that i dont like that guy in my raid ! which is obviously doesnt make sense at all and its abusing his rank/permission on that raid. (Cuz if he doesnt like or any other kind of personal emotions upon that person in 1st place or during the raid he could have refuse invite him to his raid before made him get id , or Raid Leader is just allowded to replace him if he doesnt listen to rl instructions after couple warnning by RL whom should try to correct the person mistakes, he can not just inv players for 1 or 2 bosses then kick them , then again invite another round of players for next 2 or 3 bosses and then again kick the new players whom just invited or keep going this loop again and again. So if this custom became prevalent, then all raid leaders try to make raids invite some random players in their raids and on important bosses or specially last bosses (soul quest of bosses) they prefer to raid kick the players whom were in raid from its beggings and replace them with their firends or their desired chars for only 1 boss (last boss occasinally) so that they get/complete their quest and get the double benefits (for exmaple not wate 1-2 hrs on bt run & get the best loots such as legendry glaive,thoridal etc. & just invite them for illidan and save their freinds time). (Also in this specific case gms can track the raid and check the validity of my statements).

What or how does objective reasons are meaning or defined in your language?

@Agrest

Thanks for your fair judgment @Agrest but please recall & remind the Ricas and maybe some people whom doesnt know the conditions of how to make a proper ticket/report and its consequences.

thanks

Raid id 163136 Raid leader Zozika @game masters @Agrest@SecDet@Peanut@Murovei 1st of all ,this guy mentioned the raid leader was Mistu (which he wasnt and he was only asistant and he didnt deal anything on looting system and he just did the calls during the raid cuz the leader was silent all time and made raids wipping) and Zozika was a raid leader whole time and this Rikoo made false information. 2nd only the elem said before 1st boss kill that he is rolling other spec (enhance shaman) which can be checked out by game masters during raid time. 3rd Obviously this complaint is including the false information about Mistu reputations and try to show him as raid leader which quite distracting .and refer to rules 4.4 and 4.6 Rikoo try to Intentional deception of the GMs should be faced with its consequences. 4th, on 2nd boss (Brutallus) the Leggings of Calamity dropped and he rolled on main spec and won the leg (even he didnt mention he was rolling spell spec) and as you see he is claiming he was rolling feral spec whole time and thats why he made this ticket/report ( so the question is why he needed on main spec on spell leg and got it? and didnt wait for greed? and basically he has broken rule 3.11 too.) ( Now he is caliming he lost the itemDuplicitous Guise on roll so he wanna get double benefits by rolling 2 diffrent specs in one raid ?)

@SecDet@Murovei@Peanutwaiting for gms answer.

@SecDet @Peanut@Murovei@Agrestwaiting for gms to answer.

@ game masters : Still waiting for your responses.

well there wasnt any reasonable or logical ones he rkicked me. game master and whom were in the raid can check it out and i did my task and all what RL said during that raid. but politley explain him to change the loot from uncommen to epic mode for less clicks which was frustrating . but he prefer to get ride of me. So i demand judement and refer to server rules, raid leaders can not rkick ppl without any specific reasons or explanation after made them get id.

Raid id 162723 the raid rule was main spec need & off greed . and a boomy/balon druid name (Butcherr) rolled need on shaman elem t6 shoulder on boss Fathom-Lord Karathress. https://db.moonwell.su/?item=31023 and broken server rules 3.11 please punish him and redistribute the item to rightful winner thanks.

Raid id 162681 (BT raid) Hi , i wanna report a raid leader name Zaiteki whom rkick me without any reason from raid after i got id just cuz i asked him to use epic mode and he doesnt even know how to fix it and then called me retarded and rkick me . He clearly broken server rule 3.13 and then intentiionaly try to replace me by some one else after i got id by his raid. I demand max penalty by server rules. + he insulted me after i warned him about to report his action. here is the proof.

@game master Still waiting for some buddy reply.

Raid id 161034 Raid Leader Sorg. Good afternoon, the raid was on naxxarams and the drop rule was main spec need and offspec greed (said by rl sorg). A priest COH name (Hollypolly) didnt mentioned he rolling other spec before 1st boss kill. and leader said multi times " if u roll other specs say now." (he said before 1st boss kills , still priest didnt say anything. Although , after 1st boss killed and Shoulderpads of Knowledge's Pursuit dropped priest needed that and won and claimed he wanna roll shadow ( but refer to server rules and also raid leader call he should have said BEFORE the boss kill. but he didnt , anyway raid leader accepted then he rolling shadow and Sorg (raid leader from priest guild ) announced priest Hollypolly rolling shadow spec. But , again on boss sapphiron he needed ,Resilience of the Scourge and won it , instead of greed, so officially he has rolled 2 diffrent specs. and raid leader also accepted that. So, refer to server rule 3.11 he has broken this rule. So please redistribute the items he has need on both spec and consider if he or raid leader should be punished, or not. Regards.

@ game master raid id 158689 raid to naxxarams in raid both priests (shadow priest and coh) announced that they gonna roll for shadow. and at last boss Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei dropped and i won the roll on offspec. and i didnt pass it.cuz i can use it as shaman too. but raid leader Omb (the warlock) gave it to preist without asking my permission and officaily broken rule 3.11 of server . plz punish the raid leader and redistribute the item (he even mislooted the satff to retri pala at the end) .thanks

@Gensen with all respect .as a raid leader i unwantedly forgotten to announce it in raid char , i should have screen shot my aggretment with warlock on private chat. and i accepted the penalty upon myself .but which shown during the raid time or during the looting proccess or before illidan(last boss fight starts) ... if the rouge wasnt happy or he has any kind of objections why he didnt say anything on raid chat or private chat to rl? .But i have some inquiries: 1. if u check out whole raid warlock joined with his warior as alt on group 3 and it was whole time on group 3 with almost similar name that shown its his own alt. during the raid time which tooks more than 1hr 17mins none of the members of raid including the rogue didnt announce his protest or any kind of objection.And ofcourse it was so obvious for all of them (also rogue) that the warlock will log char warior last boss.(and thats why they didnt say anything) 2.if u check out the raid he didnt win any items by his warlock at all. so to respond to some of accusations which ive seen some ppl whom never had been in that raid made , are not valid without any kind of proof and evidence. 3. before the last boss fight he left with his warlock and log back with his warior. which u can see clearly on raid history. even that moment ,rouge or any one else didnt protest which they could have easily say" warior can not roll any items cuz he swap the char". 4. during the fight of illidan (last boss) they still had the chance to announce any kind of their unsatisfaction to RL ... but there wasnt any kind of protest again.(another chance). 5.when the boss fight was over ... and before the looting process ... again no one had any objections again (include the Stunstun the rouge himself).(and also you better know the drop chance of legendry items are so rare .. and none of us include RL can predict that.) (but this is another chance for them to make their announcement but he didnt.) 6. during the looting process again no protests . and not even after the item distributation. on raid chat ... when he lost the roll vs warior and you can see others congragulating to warior. And i kept asking myself ,why he or any other members of that raid didnt announce their unsatisfactions when they have chances? more than 5times? and its so obvious rogue go on rules and search over and over after couple hours which raid has been alrdy over to find out a an excuse that stems from RL negligence and use it on his own benefits. @Gensenwhit all respect.as RL i appologze @ momo cuz he was rightful winner of glaive and it was all my fault as rl i wish i could make it up and i asuusre u it was unwanted mistake which had happend also affected by pressure of leading an lots of whispers during that damn raid. But the fair judgement would be item have been removed and RL get punished.. and redistribuation is too much (my opinion with respect to gm decision).